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2 July 2010 View Comments

At the July London Meet Up we will be hearing from Interaction London about measurement and insight in social media.

Sentiment and listening in particular grab my attention when this topic comes round for discussion. Surely it is just common sense? So common sense in fact all the “Social Media will save your business” and “if you are not on twitter you will die by the end of this sentence” people are so far behind they think they are first.

The technology available merely enhances our ability to do an even better job of what we were doing already.

I often find myself crossing swords with traditional sales people who do “cold calling -because that is what works in our industry.”
Really, the only reason they do cold calling is “because that’s what they do”. They don’t know any better because they are so busy cold calling they have not got time to listen to people.
I consistently strongly, passionately and adamantly argue that we should seek human social and interactive behaviour to engage with each other. This means less time wasted, less annoyed people and a more often than not a win / win. Most of you will know this as ‘permission marketing’.

Why I love Meet Up is not so much the technology is it the ‘sentiment, culture and community around the brand. “Use the internet to get off of the internet” is their tag line.

It is very easy to hide behind a phone an advert or a flyer; being genuine, admitting your mistakes and taking responsibility (or not as the case maybe) is more engaging and attractive to people because it removes doubt and develops trust so things move faster.

This is at both ends of the business spectrum. Big brands who try to cover over mistakes end up with egg on their face; or smaller companies and sole traders pretend they are bigger than they are “We work for major brands on product launches”. (You were giving out flyers at a school fete for Tesco you mean.)

My point is that honesty and trust works in several different directions, if we claim we are authentic we are cursed with instantly sounding Inauthentic. However, if we accept and practice honesty with no attachment we get some of the most valuable feedback ever and that sets us on the path to winning. It is easy to muster up compliments from people but takes a braver person or brand to go out and find what is being said and deal with it. While this looks a very unattractive route to take it is certainly where the real gold lies.

Jim Collins uses in an example in his work of how Johnson & Johnson recalled millions of products in the early 70’s from supermarkets in the United Sates and won major brand trust, whereas another company had a similar situation a few months later and only recalled one consignment – this company shut down a few years later.

Building a community of advocates is, quite possibly the most intelligent way forward. Way before we were glued to our Blackberry’s and iPhones the words ‘know like and trust’ were bounded around in business. I would venture to suggest that is even more prevalent in today’s social engagement economy – YouGov surveyed 80,000 UK adults and tagged 25% of them as the N – generation, (this is the subject of a later post) but essentially these people live online and are influencer’s, in a higher earning, disposable income bracket.
Of course you have to meet people to get customers; most of all you have to know what they are saying and how to engage them.
So… meanwhile back in the ‘Cold Calling Hell Den’.
“How many meetings have you booked this week? Any of them this new N-generation thing?”
“I have not got time to find out about that, I’m on the phone!”

Guest post by Bernie Mitchell

  • I hate to sit on the fence but I also think that for most businesses a healthy balance of marketing/comms channels such as cold calling, conferences and social media etc. works best. In the spirit of this post, feel free to disagree ;)

    I’m a firm believer in trial and error. I wouldn’t rule out any form of marketing necessarily without having tested the waters. What works for one business might not for another.

    Understanding your market is key and to Bernie’s point of building a community of advocates you can only really achieve this if you know who you’re talking to and making sure that you speak with them and not at them. Social media, I think, is key in facilitating this.

    Olivia Landolt
    @6Consulting
  • Guys thanks for commenting! I will respond in more detail later. Great you commented!
    I am all for relationship marketing. See you @ #smmo!
  • Bernie,

    Gut feeling is I agree with everything you say here, but I do wonder if the age of the cold call is really dead.

    Especially when I think about commodity services or products, accountancy, printing, recruitment, I can always think of at least one person in each of those categories that have been successful in building a human/online network which has served them well in terms of referrals but there success makes it harder for others to build such a community and are left with no option but to resort to interruptive marketing models to survive.

    Human/online networks are getting so large and difficult to navigate I expect cold calling and other interruptive marketing techniques provide a better ROI in a shorter timeframe for low margin commodity businesses that rely on just that.

    http://www.zigguratbrands.com
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  • danielesparraguera
    Andrew,

    It's interesting to think about being the next commodity service provider entering into a marketplace and finding that someone elses success closes out yours.

    I can understand how it would make sense in terms of ROI partcularly if as a commodity provider you've got a niche/position that others don't take but delivering that message via interruptive models needs to be a short term position.

    Maybe Bernie should have written from a "Here's something else to go along with your cold calling" point of view.
  • I recently attending a talk by James Caan (@jamescaan) and he touched on technology and social media being a powerful tool to break down boundaries and give us the opportunity to better research our prospects - he followed that by saying there's no better replacement to "picking up the f***ing phone" - shocked us to hear it put that way - but totally agree
  • It's all about the way you make the call. I've taken hundreds of calls at Ziggurat and the only ones with a chance of going through are friendly concise and from people that have clearly done a little bit of research about us first.
  • Like what you say Andrew (no surprise there though considering our recent discussions). I have to say I am getting tired of this either/or ethos. Just because we have a shiny new (and effective) tool in the shape of social media doesn't automatically relegate previous tools to the bench. Far from it.

    The key here is integration. Social media helps you to build a brand, establish a credible reputation, grow a digital footprint that fills up the first few pages of Google and such like. Once this is done, cold calling can become easier as you have the ability to back up any claims in the call simply by pointing people in the right direction online, or they may already have heard of you because of your social media efforts.

    Of course all of this relies on having a great CRM system and top notch ethics built into the sales process to ensure minimum annoyance and maximum relevancy.
  • @Daniel @Gemma

    Said it perfectly. Like any campaign the successful one starts with thinking about objectives and the customer and then working out the best tools to get to them (and keep them!).

    I also think people underestimate what Twitter can do post-sale to quicken delivery, offer customer service and encourage repeat business or referral - Dell cover this whole spectrum perfectly and it really helps drive sales.
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